@MinatoN11665 I don't even believe in death at a biological level. He made a choice. As heart breaking as that choice is to his family. Whatever the reason/s, I have always found a margin of comfort in believing the person has made the best decision for themselves at the time. Just because it irks me. Whenever doctrine says. Can't go to heaven, it's a suicide. I just want to say for posterity. The wages of sin are death. To kill is a sin. So my suicide, the wage of my sin would be paid upon my death. There by the sin of killing will be regarded as forgiven. One thing I don't get? How can a homeless person with no income accrue debts that would scare a middle class family?